One more extention to the clock
One thing that we in in the open source world have some problems with is the bad concept the round globe is, different hours around the globe and that developer you need is sleeping, and you have no clue wen will he be up. without doing some world time zones math.
So and in the spirit of "I'm to lazy to do that" we are creating another extension to the clock so you can with ease find hot wen the blasted ping will work. :)
Now the pretty picture.
Now the pretty picture.
The border might be a good idea to be adjustable in size, specially in the panel and wen an app. ix maximized.
PS this are plasmoids not actual windows
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In that case I miss a one-click way to go from the calendar view to the timezone view.
It certainly *looks* kick-ass though =)
Small note, in your current screenshot is the complete name of the month and the abbreviation of the month in the top left corner.
in the timezone-view, can you use the globe as a slider-button to switch the timezone? Is that the idea? Would be cool...
Might be nice if that could be tweaked.
Definately +++
What about doing adding date events (to KOrganizer, for example) straight from the plasmoid? :)
The numbers looked cool already, but the calendar and timezone look soo nice too! I like it! :)
the timezone is beautiful and i always liked the way the calender looks...
and yeah would benice to be able to change border size for those plasmoids...
Also it's a total must to have the option to just setting it off so there is no border at all..
ow yeah and those options should probably be avaiable at some central spot like kconfig....
but ill repeat myself... great work.. i have great respect for the work the oxygen team has done...(and we didnt see the finished KDE 4 yet ;) )
Fra
(an italian fan)
I take it the little globe rotates slowly to indicate where in the word it is noon? ;-)
Excellent job btw!
Maybe it's because I'm a slightly color blind (not really *blind*, rather defect).
And finally, two questions:
1. If I place the clock in a panel, will the world globe/calender grow out like "extenders"?
2. Will I be able to change "theme"/colors?
Keep up with the great work!
@ nuno: Can it be changed to something with more contrast for accessibility purposes, pretty please? The rest looks awesome. As mentioned above, KOrganizer integration would be nice, too. Thanks.
About the red border i wanted to had a bit of coulor there but i think i will make the number bold to so its more distinguishable.
Give some padding to the numbers in the calender. Decrease the padding of the glass around calender window.
I am tired of watching all the stuff with no proper padding including the window manger mock ups.
I am afraid we may end up with too much tweaking and no uniform layout.
I am really loosing hopes on this project.
Do check the apple people.
The glass borders, however, do need to be worked on a bit more because I can it looking redundant on every window, plasmoid and kicker itself.
Nice work anyways!
Some of the important factors we are missing in the whole oxygen icons theme is need for a good FONT and PADDING.I believe these two things bring around 50% look to the desktop along with color pallet and intelligent use of them. People in open source missing these things and ending up creating a wild artwork except Mozilla.
Here are some of my observations case by case:
1.Reducing borders for the calender app does not harm much. For example considering the padding between border and actual window is 2px then reducing it for 1px gives it a good look. Infact having no border around them will give a widget like look.
2.Look at the numbers in the calender app. Have a close look at the number 25 or 30. They are ugly having no padding. Removing the squares around the numbers gives the calender a clean look.
3.Instead of red border around the 'current day' it would be good to use a white embossed border square gives a good look
4. Even the windows mock ups there are no padding at all. for example imagine this, select a word doucment in the window manager and look at the padding around the document icon. top and bottom padding is too much compared to the right and left hand side padding. Both the four sides should have equal padding.
5.Most important factor is font. I would like to see the oxygen icons team putting effort to create a new font or try to find out a decent font from the existing. one of the reasons for mac desktop gives us a refreshing feeling is mainly because the font.
Other than that I love the idea of using the black color for Desktop environment and the Icons are really good.
I would like to quote the comments by Jonathan Ive - Designer of Mac and Ipod.
The design we practice isn’t about self expression. I don’t want to see a designer wagging his tail in my face. I want to see a problem solved, and in a way that acknowledges its context
"It's all about removing the unnecessary"
I hope you people are open to ideas and Please consider my observation.
yeah, sure. what an idiot you are.
"there is no reason to make kde4 look like crap just because people still use a old 1024x768 resolution"
bout 65% of kde users still run 1024x768 u moron. and the borders look like cluttered crap, no matter what resolution i use.
Good work!
Well i don't consider myself wise at all, At best i might have some good common sense of prettiness and usability.
First good font, well we oxygen team cant tackle the entire universe of OSS problems, good font in the OSS world is a problem its a well know problem. I'M currently using the great fonts from RED HAT "liberation font". Also the font rendering as lot to do with is and not the font itself. And the opinions on the subject are all but uniform, some people prefer windows font some apple, i for one like the fonts one my mandriva box. Yes font creators of the world join our team to supply the best OSS fonts ever.
Padding, sorry i don't agree with you in most cases you pointed, using some kind of padding fixed rule will not make it look better the padding i have done there is common esthetic good sense padding.
Also this clock is inspired on a clock i seen in real life and a style used in the 70's there is a retro feeling to it. i agre that some numbers are not perfect but i have the not fix width problem with the fonts so some numbers are a bit to big... don't think the problem is that huge.
Windows mock ups, Those are mostly individualized widgets that i put in a window for context, yes the bg is there for that reason also... windows are done in qtdesigner. All of the widget padding we can do in the oxygen code will be done but its mostly the developer creating his app UI that has that power. Yes if we had the manpower we would like to do UI lift app for most apps in KDE.
Finally the white border getting tired of saying this, its has function not there just cause its pretty, its supposed to help group plasmoids and telling you they are grouped, in a nice clean visual way. also helps you to have clear area to move them arround wen overing the white border some option buttons might show up to give you extra function.
Want to help us? You seem to have good strong knowledge on several issues that are in our area so please join us in #oxygen for talk and work.
1 please be polite no need for that.
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"bout 65% of kde users still run 1024x768"
were did you got those numbers judging from my blog stats... its around 17.77%
most are using, 1280x1024 29,03%
1280x800 14,05%
btw 1920x1200 is 4,35% 1680x1050 10,86% and finaly
800x600 is now 0,56%.
so yes screens are geting biguer all the time, its a clear trend.
http://www.nuno-icons.com/images/estilo/rect3048.png
and you click one, you get the workspace with more contrast and things like that, i know you will implement this, but just in case ;)
BTW, your screenshots made me drool.
I don't now about the default color scheme from kde4, but... that color seems a lot with vista style, and that is not so good !
regards!