The air we see...
Today the great Marco Committed air into svn.
Let me just tell you a bit about air, air is a direct descendant of the air wallpaper, I made the first sketch of it the same day I made the wallpaper, and it tries to make the people that found the Oxygen theme "to black" happy. There is no one fits all design, and hopefully with air we can make a wider spectrum of people love KDE. ( in the future I think we can still make a couple more themes)
Its still we hope coherent, there are a lot of small details that are shared with oxygen both qt theme as plasma theme. That gives it a feeling of belonging as part of the same experience.
We introduced a brand new element in plasma theming, a cropped background the is placed on the plasmoid canvas, (you will see this in the future taken to new heights as it opens a fantasist new set of opportunities to designers).
Its transparent, people love transparent stuff :) (we did some effort to avoid contrast issues, but with certain wallpapers there could be a bit of a problem, nothing much dough...(you still have oxygen theme that is very contrasted)).
We try in KDE 4.3 introduced a new way of branding KDE, were more than the KDE brand we try to share an experience, "the KDE experience" , that you can enjoy in your distribution... And work as already began with some major distributions were we are working together to create that experience for you, and maintaining mostly intact the branding of your distribution.... Its working pretty well so far...
Let me just tell you a bit about air, air is a direct descendant of the air wallpaper, I made the first sketch of it the same day I made the wallpaper, and it tries to make the people that found the Oxygen theme "to black" happy. There is no one fits all design, and hopefully with air we can make a wider spectrum of people love KDE. ( in the future I think we can still make a couple more themes)
Its still we hope coherent, there are a lot of small details that are shared with oxygen both qt theme as plasma theme. That gives it a feeling of belonging as part of the same experience.
We introduced a brand new element in plasma theming, a cropped background the is placed on the plasmoid canvas, (you will see this in the future taken to new heights as it opens a fantasist new set of opportunities to designers).
Its transparent, people love transparent stuff :) (we did some effort to avoid contrast issues, but with certain wallpapers there could be a bit of a problem, nothing much dough...(you still have oxygen theme that is very contrasted)).
We try in KDE 4.3 introduced a new way of branding KDE, were more than the KDE brand we try to share an experience, "the KDE experience" , that you can enjoy in your distribution... And work as already began with some major distributions were we are working together to create that experience for you, and maintaining mostly intact the branding of your distribution.... Its working pretty well so far...
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This is true, however a thought I had while reading it was... KDE3.5 had a blending option to tint the desktop wallpaper. Would it be possible to enable a theme option that would allow you to do the same with (probably light colored) themes.
That way the user could take take the beauty of Air and customize it (a little) to their tastes.
As an added bonus, it may be helpful to the branding issue I've been reading about on the Planet.
KennV
Thank You!
I generelly like the idea, but they could be less intrusive.
Anyway I like air more than oxygen. ;)
But I like the previous version (sunken task items) better than the current.
Great work Pinheiro!
And thanks to all the Oxygen Team :)
I'd like to see some border-less and translucent windeco, similar to the one in Windows Aero.
Like this:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/df/Aero_Example.png
The gray one is not as pretty anymore...
I'd like to see some border-less and translucent windeco"
Any window decoration can be translucent right now. You can set that on the Desktop Effects options.
Great work! the air theme is quite impressive.
The only problem I can see in the image is the dolphin (or kde apps in general) look and feel.
In your mockups the feel more solid with a more visual gradient:
http://www.nuno-icons.com/images/estilo/nocoloringmoreoptions21.png
http://nuno-icons.com/images/estilo/new%20style%20big%20small%20window.png
Can you please do something about it?
Thank you and all the KDE team and looking forward for the final release of KDE 4.3!
Poldark
The normal way to distinguish the hour hand from the minute hand on an analogue clock is "long" and "short", not "fat" and thin".
I like the general impression of Air but if Plasma keep is making these fundamental mistakes you'll keep losing your remaining supporters.
I keep hoping the KDE 4 project will prove me wrong and it never does.
Aaron - wake up
I have one question. It's a bug or feature? http://imagebin.ca/view/a8_Wuu.html
Have you decide what the focus is going to be for 4.4?
The normal way to distinguish the hour hand from the minute hand on an analogue clock is "long" and "short", not "fat" and thin".
I like the general impression of Air but if Plasma keep is making these fundamental mistakes you'll keep losing your remaining supporters.
I keep hoping the KDE 4 project will prove me wrong and it never does.
Aaron - wake up"
I'm with you, Aaron has destroyed the old feeling that KDE had.
@Anonymous its is bowth longer and thiner. And that type of argumentative spech only makes us wanna stop... please be kind we do this for fun so help us make it a fun experience.
I don't want too, that KDE brand will be recognizable only with this such as element. Wherever you look: "Air" wallpaper. The idea is clear I know - merge simple objects with some good prepared gradients - the wall is ready.
The life of it I think is done. I thought next release of the KDE will have another, even improved, but another one wallpaper such as we could admire from v4.0 till v4.2. Unpleasant surprise for me with 4.3... Breathe people but you must be more innovative Pinheiro if you want to keep this slogan.
I hope the widget theme gets some love this time...
What the fuck is this?
The normal way to distinguish the hour hand from the minute hand on an analogue clock is "long" and "short", not "fat" and thin".
I like the general impression of Air but if Plasma keep is making these fundamental mistakes you'll keep losing your remaining supporters.
I keep hoping the KDE 4 project will prove me wrong and it never does.
There is a visible difference in length+width between the hour / min hand.
However this may show an accessibility flaw if the functionally blind can not see this.
This difference may need to be greater? Is this what you were trying to say?
I am sure this is not the biggest issue. I am also sure people are getting 'lost' through these 'mistakes'
Keep up the good work!
If they're so disappointed by KDE4's art direction they should work on changing it, rather than complaining.
Also we can't deliver the perfect desktop today, because there is no such thing, what we can do is to create the desktop we believe fits the needs of more people.
About the kmix icons, don't know if you talked to dantti recently on IRC, but he asked me to let you know that the icons are named with the prefix mixer-... now instead of kmix-... just to warn you if you make some more fantastic kmix icons...
It's not immediately obvious to me as to whether the time in the screenshot is 9:10 or 1:45. You shouldn't have to think at all when looking at a clock!
Other than that it's great - I've been using the Air theme since it was born and this is the only major issue I've had with it.
but, when an improve of KDM ? Could we see for KDE 4.3 a new KDM Theme ?
giuseppe
Changing all the default artwork every 6 months doesn't make any sense at all, it's too much work and as you said it may even go against the brand you are trying to build.
Air and Oxygen make for some really nice default themes, a white one and a darkish one, besides them there are a lot of other really nice plasma themes that are packaged in the default install. But oxygen is more than just a plasma theme and you also have work to do in the windeco, widget style, icons,...
What I'm trying to say is that we realize how much work you are investing in this and that you have done a great job so far. If a multidollar company like microsoft can stick to the same artwork for years and years it is silly to ask KDE to change it all every 6 months.
Thanks for all your work, and please keep surprising us with you awesome designs
There are many people that still likes Oxygen, please continue to improve it.
The kmix icon also needs more improvement, some sharper icon for kmix would be nice. The current kmix icon doesn't look very polished.
You are the best.
Please never change.
Respect.
Congratulations, good job!
do you think you can create an svg-based kwin Air-decoration using Aurorae:?
http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Aurorae+Theme+Engine?content=107158
Thanks for your great work. Air looks hot!
Aure you joking? KDE 4.3 was the most flexime and beautiful desktop... until now.
Today I got forced to use Air as default theme in an Ubuntu's repository (nightly builds). Every wallpaper with black color does unusable the major part of widgets that has text instead of buttons, like the Trash icon, Weather plasmoid, folder views and 3º party widgets. Only a few widgets are able to change the text colors but... every time that you changes a wallpaper looks a nightmare to change the text color of every widget (if it can, if not you are fuc*ed). How can be this fault a good theme feature? wallpapers should not affect a Theme desktop, if is very affected it (theme) can't be good.
Excessive white Panels looks horrible in Task manager and Systray widgets.
And what happens when texts in widgets looks horrible with very white or very dark wallpapers? If a choose white text I can't read them because the background is excessive white but if I choose a black or dark colour text it looks horrible because is hard to read...
All this... is possible that the Air theme only has been tested with the default Air wallpaper?
Only I liked how looks the Analog clock widget when Air theme is selected, nothing more :S
Air by default in KDE 4.3 instead of Oxygen is an error...
I'm also one of the ones that prefer oxygen to air but with air we hope to make a wider spectrum of users happy.
If it's possible change that, also with you're master channell icon.
Ps. Air rocks!!!!
Oxygen looks readable in most conditions and is therefore more flexible.
But still, nice work, I am only suggesting this to improve things even more!
love that air thing and thx for the wonderful work u do ..:-)
all the best
pete
1) the minimize, maximize, close, etc window decorations have their borders a bit too pronounced compared to the rest of the theme. (the oxygen theme had them too hard to spot, while these are too obvious, something in between would make it ideal)
2) the inactive applications on the taskbar have the text color too close to the background and can be hard to read if ambient light is powefull.
Other than those observations I totally like the new theme.
The default option should be one that works with either light or dark backgrounds. Or the ability to change the intensity or color of that light gray color would be good.
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