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Dot 8

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Or 4.8, is Out......

The reason I say dot 8 is that oxygen started with the 4.x series, so now with dot 8 its alive for 4.5 years, its not a juvenile anymore.

Looking back I must say that I'm incredibly happy with what we did over the years, I think its without a question a fantastic proof that OSS people can coordinate efforts in to creating huge pieces of coherent design made by many, for more.
And doing that with the single motivation of sharing the LOVE poured in to that work.

OXYGEN is a true work of LOVE.     

From the early days 6 years ago, when me Ken and David started with that ambitious crazy project of redoing all of the KDE icon set, (yeah we thought that was ambitious), when we were going to be sported to do that job by a popular Distro. To the moment the plug was removed from the project. Passing trough the days I thought the future was black (literally i made all the icons black :) ). And the days we thought  we could do a widget theme as well, and inviting Thomas L. to help, To the moment we Saw Oxygen explode into everything you see in KDE this days. There was a common element.... The LOVE, the love for a project, the love for a community, the immense fun it was to push the boundaries of what our users expect and appreciate in KDE from a design perspective.

I love working with people Like  Hugo, (must mention him for the superb amazing work he as done), were we can almost hallways complete each others sentences.
Must mention our Ruphy (ricardo) that was for a good part, oxygen soul.
Also can't forget Casper, that literally saved us when all seemed lost.
And Marco Martin, for being the amazing person he his.
Ooooo and  Martin Gräßlin and the kwin team he represents, you guys rocked the way we talk together.
And the other many many many many people that shared the love of/for Oxygen over the last years.
I know I'm being terribly unjust to not mention you, but you have my LOVE.
And Finally, the most important person of them all YOU, the user of Oxygen, the countless You's that moaned at a icon or a folder I did, that congratulated Hugo on his work, or that still use David's icons, You that LOVE/HATE Oxygen, to you my utmost, thank you.

Today.

Oxygen still as a long way to go.  KDE 5.0 is still a distant mirage and oxygen still needs a lot of work, I will keep making what I know best, Icons, I still have over 1000 to do, we now have this missing piece of the Oxygen experience being worked by Vernon, the Oxygen Font.
And we have new people joining in every day like Eshat that is doing all of the 4,8 specific branding Kudos for that.
And by the time the last 4,X comes out Oxygen will be I hope mostly finished... and also I hope dead...:)

And Tomorrow.

Please do not see it as a bad thing, its a good thing, its just part of evolution. And the reason I'm saying this is to start to stern the designers out there to Join oxygen NOW!!! to be part of its future, I can say its has been the most fun personal enrichment experience, of my life. I don't know what will be the future, nor do i think I should as YOU must  have a word in it, But I'm super exited about it.
Do you want it to be the good child of oxygen? using many of Oxygen's lines and elements, or the rebel kid that denies is father??? Its is up to you to be part of that amazing journey now!

The challenges Oxygen faced 6 years ago are vastly different from the scenario we have for KDE in the coming years... From a Desktop design paradigm we now have to face several scenarios, several gadgets we need to excel at, wile keeping the same design language, new design paradigms languages we need to keep up with, new generation of users with different expectations and desires.
Plasma helps allot by providing flexible desktop shells that adapt to several different user interaction paradigms, with QML components, porting desktop apps into more different from factors will become less problematic (but they do require massive redesign in most cases). Having a Font will help us a lot manage the increasing range of display DPI's, on the market.

But all of this needs to be fulfilled by a new project.. Oxygen is/was great, join in to be part of the Next great thing OSS does in design.....

Please tell-me if I'm wrong in my assumptions, is this a good bad idea?

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Chema Martín said...

First and foremost, I want to say THANKS, to you and to all involved in the Oxygen iconset project. I cannot think of KDE without it and I have to say I absolutely LOVE it today... It is perhaps because of that that I am not sure I would like to see it end and move to something else. On the one hand, yes, I love Oxygen and I don't want it to go, but on the other side, I also think certain things need time to work.

As yo said yourself, Oxygen would be complete by the time KDE SC 4.x series end... And then what? Not even a chance to enjoy Oxygen in its completeness? I sometimes think things are too rushed in OSS and this feels like just another example.

Then there is the idea of branding, and I cannot think of anything that represents the branding of KDE more faithfully than Oxygen. Turning it upside down would be a huge mistake, in my opinion, so I hope it either stays there for a little longer, or the upcoming stuff continues its trend.

Once again, thanks for all you do!

Pinheiro said...

@Chema Martín thank you so much :D

pepedopolous said...

I too wanna say thankyou. Oxygen = awesome.
Apart from the occasional wallpaper, I find it really hard to use anything but Oxygen and the default plasma theme.

If Apple's Aqua widgets were designed to make people want to lick the screen, I would say they failed and Oxygen does a better job! It's one of the reasons I love KDE so much!

It's amazing how all this has come together over the years. Like the previous poster, I think it would be a shame to throw it away when it's all done. Can you give us some hints about what a new theme might look like? ;-)

Personally, I'd like to see development where possible to make Oxygen use less resources e.g. use Aurorae for the windeco. Then a new theme could benefit from this optimisation and still offer new 'bling'.

I also get the nagging feeling that gtk users have an easier time making custom themes for gtk engines, is there something that can be done to make it easier for kde users who don't code?

Anonymous said...

I would love to see a new high quality and extremely consistent theme for KDE. The fact is that everything gets a bit insipid after years of use. Oxygen is one of the best icons themes avaible and after the few remaining inconsistencies have been ruled out I think it should go in to the maintance mode but remain as an option in the future applications.

I'm definetly interested in what you have in mind for the future. It should be something different enough from Oxygen but still professional and usable. I personally would go with symbolic icons for actions etc (Faenza) and with transparency and subtle bling for other icons (Windows I guess).

"KDE 5.0" insn't that far in the future thoug; about 1-1,5 years or something? :p

Anonymous said...

Hello, I like Oxygen very much. I hope, that it will be working on SC 5 fluently, because it is a really nice work which is well tested and quite complete.
Nevertheless I appriciate your efforts to create something new. Oxygen has reached meanwhile a high level, so that additional fine tunings are much work for small improvements. Starting with a new development in time will enshure, that there is no gap where Oxygen is not usable without problems, while the successor is still premature.
I'm really curious about what my next generation KDE will look like.
ATM I just enjoy Oxygen. The icon theme is great. The thing I like most at Oxygen it the Widget theme. Oxygen provides a flat consistent surface and builds the widgets with the surface. So the buttons are stamped out and lifted up, while text edits are stamped out and put away. Even the window frames and the window surface are one part. This gives space to breath to all items. The very most other widget sets are looking much more layered and distract with edges, which are not necessary.

P.S.: Oxygen has not yet a *tablet icon*. So if this is not on your list, I request such a icon.


Pinheiro, I absolutely love Oxygen. To me, that is KDE. I love your icons, and was delighted in 4.8 to see more of the beautiful silver ones. I hope you continue to touch the few colored icons left with your silver brush. Kleopatra needs you!

Kintoki said...

Yes, in my opinion kde5 should have a new look. Trends have changed since the lunch of kde4 with oxygane. Apps try to mimic more and more the look of web apps style.

ps. How about making a contest for a kde5 theme mockup

Rho said...

Oxygen is probably one of the most important projects ever lived in icon building... not only for its relevance as a social construction, but also because of it's impact in the icon design.
Oxygen was trascendental and generated transformation, and actually today it is still fresh looking. However I have to agree, that a new improvement of this project in the frame of a major upgrade will lead Oxygen to make another revolution, once again. :)
Of course, I love Oxygen. ;)

Van Man said...

I think it is a great idea and the thing that is most important is that you are doing it with you whole heart at this which mean it will be successful!

Jack said...

Are you kidding me? Oxygen on KDE (the widget theme included) is what convinced me that Linux wasn't just going to be this shabby hobby OS of mine, and that open development could achieve outstanding design that beat the competition.

I think you're right. Oxygen has become something truly amazing, even with its small imperfections, and the future will have a new set of expectations from us. I see good iconography all over the place these days, and I keep looking back on Oxygen and realize there's nothing quite like it. It's readable and photographic at the same time- very difficult to pull off without looking cheesy.

GNOME and Elementary come to mind as projects that have a good focus on design that are gaining a lot of traction and capturing the imagination of users like you guys did with Oxygen. It will be refreshing to see it complete, to look back in 10 years and realized just was accomplished. But really, I think what GNOME and Elementary highlight most is that KDE still has a lot of small areas to improve upon when it comes to the design. I personally think the KDE tablet experience needs the most help.

If we can continue to revise and evolve KDE as in the past, I think we'll be in the perfect spot to make a real difference in how people use their devices (again).

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Yes, in my opinion kde5 should have a new look. Trends have changed since the lunch of kde4 with oxygane. Apps try to mimic more and more the look of web apps style.

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